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Top 10 reasons to elect anybody but Obama

Seeded on Mon Feb 20, 2012 1:39 PM EST
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While Republicans are locked in a brutal battle over their presidential nomination, let us not forget that anybody the GOP picks will be far superior than the current resident at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. Not convinced? Here’s the evidence:

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Patriot 8888Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Just focus on this list as you go to the polls in November.

Debt, deficit, downgrade, decline.....Why would anyone want four more years of this?

  • 11 votes
#1 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 1:40 PM EST
Ire

Obama 2012!!

  • 38 votes
#1.1 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 2:12 PM EST
gregharris

Wow!!! I'm all for freedom of speech...but this website is PURE DIS-INFORMATION..

  • 38 votes
#1.2 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 2:23 PM EST
Patriot 8888Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

I guess you must be used to disinformation - listening to Obama day in and day out.

  • 8 votes
#1.3 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 2:24 PM EST
gregharris

Back at you with Fox News dis-information....we agree to dis-agree.

  • 26 votes
#1.4 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 2:30 PM EST
Ire

gregharris is right. There's no "evidence" there, just a bunch of opinion; which is fine if the opinion happened to be informed or at least have some data supporting the conclusion.

Seriously, Patriot, I expect more from Conservatives than "I know you are, but what am I?" type arguments....wait a minute, no I don't! hahaha.

  • 33 votes
#1.5 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 2:41 PM EST
douglasq

So let me get this straight...

Anyone but Obama implies that the GOP would be happy with someone with no real education, no national political experience, no accomplishments, no intellect, no grasp of the issues facing our country on the world stage....

My God! You're nominating Sarah Palin!

  • 35 votes
#1.6 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 2:46 PM EST
lib50

No way I'd vote for a republican given their current radical turn off the far right cliff. Besides, most of those 10 things are reasons I WOULD vote for Obama.

Obama 2012 - for women, gays, workers, the middle class and minorities. Keep the clown posse OUT of power.

  • 23 votes
#1.7 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:25 PM EST
AmericanSage

Here we go.... another self proclaimed "Patriot" telling the rest of us (supposed non-patriots) whats right for America. Or should I say... "whats White for America".

  • 26 votes
#1.8 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 4:01 PM EST
Patriot 8888Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Please keep your racist drivel to yourself and stay on the topic of the seed.

If you post any more troll tripe you will be deleted.

  • 6 votes
#1.9 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 4:09 PM EST
Ron Christman

How do you look at yourself in the mirror in the morning 'riot? Really, this is a serious question. How do you seed like this kind of crap knowing that it is so easily disproven and still look at yourself in the mirror?

  • 15 votes
#1.10 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:05 PM EST
Patriot 8888

Disproven by what Ron? Daily Kos? Factcheck?

Please, be my guest, provide the proof of the contrary.

  • 2 votes
#1.11 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:07 PM EST
L'EMPEREUR du POLE NORD


Patriot 8888

Once again I ask you, where is your PROOF of any of this babble you spurt.

Do you realize there is a difference between 'facts' and 'opinions'.

All you offer is RWNJ opinion.

OBAMA - BIDEN 2012

  • 20 votes
#1.12 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:18 PM EST
Patriot 8888

Thanks for your insightful commentary.

  • 2 votes
#1.13 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:19 PM EST
Z1P2

Anybody but Obama... hear that folks? Republicans would rather elect a Stalin, Hitler, or Mao... what more needs to be said about republicans right now? Is it not painfully obvious that they don't care about the good of this nation anymore?

Thanks for giving us a real insight into the treasonous nature of today's republican party Patriot8888.

  • 15 votes
#1.14 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:28 PM EST
L'EMPEREUR du POLE NORD

Patriot 8888

I guess that is the proof.

  • 5 votes
#1.15 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:30 PM EST
Greenwood10

To sum it up, if you don't wnat the next 4 years to go further down the toilet don't vote for him. Look how much time we have lost with him. Imagine another four lost years. Imagine how long it will take to recover and fix the problems he has caused already. This is a great country just waiting to get back on track but Obama is like Kryptonite.

  • 3 votes
#1.16 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:48 PM EST
Jake-413451

Democrats would rather elect a Stalin, Hitler, or Mao... what more needs to be said about democrats right now?

Fixed that for you. Admittedly you posted about 8 years late since the sentiment was shared then about Bush.

Although I think the sentiment would have been devoid of value then too.

  • 4 votes
#1.17 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:48 PM EST
Greenwood10

Obama 2012!!

Unfortunately it's Obama 2013. That's the quickest we will be able to get rid of this clueless guy.

  • 2 votes
#1.18 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:50 PM EST
Z1P2

Fixed that for you.

It wasn't broken. Republicans are the ones saying they would vote for the likes of Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Saddam, Assad, et al. than to vote for Obama. It's in the article that Patriot8888 was kind enough to post, right there in the headline... it says "ANYBODY but Obama". Anybody does not rule out Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Saddam, Osama bin Laden, Assad, et al.

I know it must be hard for you to believe that republicans would betray this nation that way, but it's right there.

  • 11 votes
#1.19 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:53 PM EST
Jake-413451

And I guess you didn't read the headline I linked to that said ANYONE but Bush. That would mean Pol Pot, Castro, Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, Mussolini, Kim Il-sung, Kim Jong-il, Kim Jung-un.

I know it must be hard for you to believe that republicans democrats would betray this nation that way, but it's right there.

That is if you have any consistency at all.

Personally, I still think it's a ridiculous notion regardless of party it is being said about.

  • 4 votes
#1.20 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:59 PM EST
Mike-1499840

Anyone but Obama implies that the GOP would be happy with someone with no real education, no national political experience, no accomplishments, no intellect, no grasp of the issues facing our country on the world stage....

This is pretty much what we have now. POTUS is the first job with any responsibility he has ever had. Palin is a General Eisenhower next to Obama. Community Organizer or Law School Adjunct Instructor is no qualification to be POTUS...neither is a single incomplete term as a US Senator. What really bothers me...is he really believes he is qualified to be POTUS...He really is in over his head and doesn't realize it.

  • 2 votes
#1.21 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:01 PM EST
jen-793050

Palin is a stinking pile of offal compared to Obama.

  • 4 votes
#1.22 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:16 PM EST
Jonathan-1917156

This article/seed is a stinking pile of Offal

  • 4 votes
#1.23 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:22 PM EST
Patriot 8888

Jen and Jonathan:

Please stay on topic or take your troll tripe elsewhere.

  • 2 votes
#1.24 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:26 PM EST
jen-793050

I was replying to Mike-1499840's post and he brought up Palin, but yet you tell me my post is Troll Tripe, great moderation skills Patriot.....a little biased there are we?

  • 4 votes
#1.25 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:45 PM EST
Jonathan-1917156

jen

the seeded article is nothing but biased troll tripe, it has nothing but extremely partisan crap.

This one alone is troll tripe:

President Obama gave us Elena Kagan and Sonia Sotomayor—who for decades will be two reliable liberal votes on the Supreme Court—and he is slowly remaking the entire federal judiciary by advancing activists to the bench. President George W. Bush pushed some bad policies, but he did nominate Justices John Roberts and Samuel Alito—two solid conservatives. The next high court vacancy could be critical in tipping its ideological balance.

Lets see, neither Kagan nor Sotomayor have done ANYTHING on the SCOTUS that would remotely be considered activist, which is contrary to Thomas, Scalia, Roberts and Alito who have done NOTHING but be activist justices and in the case of Thomas, arguably absolutely corrupt justices as well.

Patriots attitude is that if you don't believe in this tripe, that you aren't really american and don't belong in this country and it is only a matter of time before we make internment camps and/or deport them for being anti american.

Patriot 8888

And the biggest reason to reelect Obama, look at the previous president, because NONE of the GOP candidates are offering anything but the same thing as what Bush II offered, and quite frankly if economic devastation is what you want, please feel free, vote GOP, but that is what you are voting for, more economic devastation.

  • 4 votes
#1.26 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:52 PM EST
Patriot 8888

Sorry but it's hard to take anyone seriously who uses the descriptor "stinking pile of offal" to describe a person.

  • 2 votes
#1.27 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:53 PM EST
Patriot 8888

Lets see, neither Kagan nor Sotomayor have done ANYTHING on the SCOTUS that would remotely be considered activist, which is contrary to Thomas, Scalia, Roberts and Alito who have done NOTHING but be activist justices and in the case of Thomas, arguably absolutely corrupt justices as well.

Give the ladies a few years and then we can chat.

And I am glad to see that you have decided to participate within the topic of seed.

  • 2 votes
#1.28 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:56 PM EST
Jonathan-1917156

Give the ladies a few years and then we can chat.

And my point remains, we have FOUR known RADICAL activist judges on the bench, one of them arguably as corrupt as a judge can get, another one only slightly less so, and you make a comment that we need to be concerned because of two people that have yet to do anything controversial. WOW!!! That just really says it all.

  • 5 votes
#1.29 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 9:11 PM EST
backroads

patriot, I'd settle for ending the Barack class warfare stunts. The fool delights in dividing the nation.

  • 1 vote
#1.30 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 12:07 AM EST
Patriot 8888

Seems to be the grand scheme to keep the divisiveness.

  • 1 vote
#1.31 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 12:26 AM EST
Reply
David-933354

Your desperation is showing.

  • 21 votes
Reply#2 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 2:27 PM EST
Patriot 8888Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Desperation. Maybe on the part of BO. And showing BO for what he is - desperate.

  • 6 votes
#2.1 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 2:30 PM EST
douglasq

His poll numbers are rising and the GOP's are falling. Why would he be desperate?

  • 25 votes
#2.2 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 2:47 PM EST
Patriot 8888Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Depends what poll you are looking at.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/124922/Presidential-Approval-Center.aspx

  • 4 votes
#2.3 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:44 PM EST
B.L. Frazer (NYC)

Maybe you should look at all of the post to be more informed before writing your ridiculous seed. Just looking at one poll as a justification that you are right seems idiotic when other polls are saying different. But I expect that from a FOX puppet. Dance Puppet Dance !

  • 13 votes
#2.4 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 4:54 PM EST
douglasq

Depends what poll you are looking at.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/124922/Presidential-Approval-Center.aspx

I prefer to look at averages of polls. Based on the following, Gallup appears to be an outlier:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_obama_job_approval-1044.html

  • 8 votes
#2.5 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:18 PM EST
XNihil0Zer0

Intrade has proven significantly more accurate for predictive purposes than any of the polling organizations. Right now it places Obama's reelection at 59%, up from 46% in October. A Republican candidate has a 38.7% chance, down from 51% in October. Republicans don't just have to pray for the economic recovery to halt, they have to pray for economic failure, if they hope to win in November.

  • 11 votes
#2.6 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:13 PM EST
CMlawyer

Sad thing is, they are praying for economic failure. Anybody but Obama and anything but a recovery. Destroy the country: that's what the "patriots" are calling for.

  • 11 votes
#2.7 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 7:09 PM EST
Reply
coloradoan-1141358

Obama himself promised to cut the deficit in half by the end of his first term. Guess he doesn't know the difference between addition and subtraction.

  • 7 votes
Reply#3 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 2:46 PM EST
douglasq

Source?

Bush promised to preserve and protect the Constitution. How did that work out?

  • 26 votes
#3.1 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 2:48 PM EST
lifeisgood43

Bush promised that we would find WMD's in Iraq. Bush promise that we, America, didn't torture. Bush promised that Iraq would pay for the Iraq illegall invasion.

So times things happen where it doesn't come true, to be honest about it

  • 11 votes
#3.2 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:28 PM EST
kappa_man_stew

coloradoan-1141358

Obama himself promised to cut the deficit in half by the end of his first term. Guess he doesn't know the difference between addition and subtraction

actually he will cut the deficit in half, but the explanation is pretty complex and i'll leave it to polifact to clear the air

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2009/mar/25/barack-obama/obama-promises-cut-deficit-half-four-years/

but it is clear that he is reducng the massive bush deficits.

  • 9 votes
#3.3 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:39 PM EST
Patriot 8888Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Bush promised to preserve and protect the Constitution. How did that work out?

Bush is unfortunately not the topic of the seed.

Typical deflection because it's difficult to defend the indefensible. BO needs to keep changing the topic because if we stay on the economy and jobless, we have epic fail.

  • 8 votes
#3.4 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:46 PM EST
katt-529866

Bush is the topic of the seed , everything that the "POTUS" has had to do on your list , was because of what Bush did or did not do! ,and you can add another one that Bush vowed to do and did not! " KEEP AMERICA SAFE" this alone should be enough to keep the Republican's out of office of having to keep" AMERICA SAFE FOREVER" !!!!

  • 11 votes
#3.5 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 4:10 PM EST
douglasq

BO needs to keep changing the topic because if we stay on the economy and jobless, we have epic fail.

Actually, "BO" should make the message about the economy and nothing but the economy. All this nonsense about contraception is just a right-wing circus sideshow. Newt should be biting the head off a chicken any moment now.

And you have to love Romney telling Michigan that we should have let the big auto makers fail at the same time they are coming roaring back from the dead.

Rick Santorum seems to have lost a bar bet to someone. Why else would he do everything he can to alienate independent women voters?

The GOP has lost its way. Here's hoping it never finds it. We might finally get something done in this country without the constant obstructionism.

  • 16 votes
#3.6 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 4:22 PM EST
irene46

@ partriot 8888 # 3.4...

the republicans are the ones that keep changing the subject from the economy because they have no ideas on how to improve it. they blather on about the deficit, obamacare, abortion and now religion.

i'm now watching fox's hannity guests promoting the fallacy to their minions that it's the president who is redirecting the focus from the economy to religion. i'm aghast at the outright mistruths that tumble out of their mouths. they can't help but lie even as they bring up the subject of religion.

they speak nothing of how they'll improve the poor and middle american's standard of living because they have no intention of doing so. there's no way that republican's demand for union members and other workers to take pay and benefit cuts will enhance their living standard. laying off public workers certainly won't improve living standards or the economy either. then they will spew about how americans are worse off than they were four years ago and of course, blame president obama.

i'm so sick of hearing about how the unemployment numbers are being manipulated because some americans have given up looking for work. these individuals may still be looking for work but may no longer be receiving unemployment compensation. whatever the case, the method of tallying the unemployed numbers was not created by the obama administration as the republicans seemly want to deceive us into believing.

  • 4 votes
#3.7 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:32 PM EST
irene46

Debt, deficit, downgrade, decline.....Why would anyone want four more years of this?

how long are you on the right going to continue to propagate the notion that the downgrade was the fault of the president? the s & p has said numerous times it was done because the republicans refused to raise the debt ceiling in order for the nation to pay it's bills.

  • 5 votes
#3.8 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:59 PM EST
Patriot 8888

And BO was one Of the chief proponents to not increase the debt ceiling.

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/256288/senator-barack-obama-explaining-his-2006-vote-against-raising-debt-limit-andrew-c-mcca

Remember this?

  • 3 votes
#3.9 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 11:05 PM EST
irene46

@ patriot 8888 # 3.9....

when president obama took office the realized the importance of raising the debt ceiling. how about the repubs that voted to raise it during the bush years but refused to raise it for president obama?

  • 4 votes
#3.10 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 2:10 AM EST
Patriot 8888

BO realized the importance to raise it?

Well, others saw runaway spending on steroids and decided that it was more important not to raise it.

  • 2 votes
#3.11 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 8:21 AM EST
irene46

Well, others saw runaway spending on steroids and decided that it was more important not to raise it.

well, these "others" are the ones the s & p has reported are the reason for the credit downgrade. NOT president obama. so some of those on the right need to stop lying about it. yeah, that's going to happen.

  • 3 votes
#3.12 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 5:12 PM EST
Patriot 8888

President Downgrade might have to suffer the consequences at the polls in November.

    #3.13 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 5:19 PM EST
    echo82

    blame the correct body for downgrade, Patriot

    • 3 votes
    #3.14 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 5:54 PM EST
    Reply
    coloradoan-1141358

    ABO 2012!!!!!

    • 11 votes
    Reply#4 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 2:46 PM EST
    echo82

    Absolutely Barack Obama 2012! Yes!!!!

    • 19 votes
    #4.1 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:06 PM EST
    Patriot 8888

    Pleasant Dreams.

    • 3 votes
    #4.2 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:46 PM EST
    B.L. Frazer (NYC)

    Anybody but Obama shows how desperate the GOP field is. You guys would vote of Elmo before Obama. Oh, that's right. You pissed off the muppets too. Elmo is pro-Obama!

    • 15 votes
    #4.3 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 4:57 PM EST
    Reply
    blue wolf

    Top reason to elect Obama:

    Everybody else is a Republican.

    • 26 votes
    Reply#5 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 2:58 PM EST
    lib50

    Another reason to elect Obama.

    I'm a woman.

    • 22 votes
    #5.1 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:26 PM EST
    MaryEllen Galloway

    #5:Top reason to elect Obama: Everybody else is a Republican. #5.1 -Another reason to elect Obama. I'm a woman.

    I wholeheartedly agree with both statements!

    See you at the voting polls in November! Carry On!

    • 19 votes
    #5.2 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:46 PM EST
    katt-529866

    I'm a old woman on medicare and s.s !

    • 10 votes
    #5.3 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:07 PM EST
    blue wolf

    lol welcome aboard katt!

    • 9 votes
    #5.4 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:42 PM EST
    Reply
    echo82

    Will that list persuade an intelligent, rational thinking person to vote against President Obama? No.

    • 20 votes
    Reply#6 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:07 PM EST
    MaryEllen Galloway

    #6:Will that list persuade an intelligent, rational thinking person to vote against President Obama? No.

    They -or no one else- have such a list! Forget it.

    Wishful dreams and empty memories also known as "promises".

    • 5 votes
    #6.1 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:52 PM EST
    Reply
    Jim-Evolu

    LOL, joke... really?? Lets see, you have all decided to hate Romney, you hate Newt, and Santorum... just wow, this guy...

    • 1 vote
    Reply#7 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:25 PM EST
    lifeisgood43

    Wow. You know people are saying the opposite about Pres Obama and the Reps/Tea Party candidates.

    There are many reason to re-elect Pres Obama over this group of Reps/Tea Party Pres candidates.

    MANY REASONS !!!!!!

    • 12 votes
    Reply#8 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:45 PM EST
    Beebobby

    Anything p888 whines about is probably something good for America and it's citizens.

    • 15 votes
    Reply#9 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:45 PM EST
    Patriot 8888Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

    I think you mean that anything BO whines about is probably something bad for America and it's freedom.

    • 2 votes
    #9.1 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:48 PM EST
    douglasq

    I think you mean that anything BO whines about is probably something bad for America and it's freedom.

    I haven't seen an example of the President whining about anything. Got one you can share?

    • 9 votes
    #9.2 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 4:28 PM EST
    Patriot 8888

    Here:

    http://lonelyconservative.com/2011/07/obama-whines-about-divided-government-at-town-hall-meeting/

    and here:

    obama whines about taking pictures with the troops

    and here:

    obama whines it would be easier to be President of China

    need more?

    • 2 votes
    #9.3 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 4:57 PM EST
    douglasq

    Here:

    http://lonelyconservative.com/2011/07/obama-whines-about-divided-government-at-town-hall-meeting/

    A blog called "The Lonely Conservative." Nevermind that, in this case, Obama is correct.

    and here:

    obama whines about taking pictures with the troops

    An anonymous, unsubstantiated source. Right.

    and here:

    obama whines it would be easier to be President of China

    Once again, a conservative blog taking things out of context. But even taken out of context, Obama is once again correct. I fail to see how that constitutes whining.

    • 12 votes
    #9.4 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:26 PM EST
    Patriot 8888

    And I fail to see how anyone could possibly make up one excuse after another for BO.

    • 1 vote
    #9.5 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:28 PM EST
    douglasq

    Did I make up any excuses? No. I stated that a) your examples do not constitute whining and b) one them is unsubstantiated and c) the other two he is correct. How is that making an excuse? You don't make excuses when you are in the right.

    • 10 votes
    #9.6 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:57 PM EST
    Reply
    kappa_man_stew

    Jim-Evolu

    LOL, joke... really?? Lets see, you have all decided to hate Romney,

    no, we just don't know who he is today

    you hate Newt,

    granted a lying, cheating, racist dirtbag doesn't get as much respect as a loyal family man

    and Santorum... just wow, this guy...

    is a religious fanatic who will go to unprecedented measures to quell women's aspirations to equality. a person who willwork to keep women in the place that a 19th century patriarch wants them. is throwing red racist meat to conservative audiences for their votes is a perfect candidate for the ever more racist conservative republican party.

    • 8 votes
    Reply#10 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:47 PM EST
    Jim-Evolu

    keep going...

      #10.1 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:50 PM EST
      Patriot 8888

      is a religious fanatic who will go to unprecedented measures to quell women's aspirations to equality. a person who willwork to keep women in the place that a 19th century patriarch wants them. is throwing red racist meat to conservative audiences for their votes is a perfect candidate for the ever more racist conservative republican party.

      No, that's just the narrative that the Left parrots about him. Realistically, he can chatter all he wants about his own personal inclinations and preferences but it will be quite difficult to get any of that past Congress.

      His major attraction is his deep conviction in support of the Constitution and the freedom that has made America great. His ability to cut the BS in the midst of Liberaland has them shaking in fear of his possible election.

      • 2 votes
      #10.2 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:52 PM EST
      MaryEllen Galloway

      #10..is a religious fanatic who will go to unprecedented measures to quell women's aspirations to equality. a person who willwork to keep women in the place that a 19th century patriarch wants them. is throwing red racist meat to conservative audiences for their votes is a perfect candidate for the ever more racist conservative republican party.

      Preach, preach! "Tell the truth and shame the devil"!

      • 7 votes
      #10.3 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:58 PM EST
      MaryEllen Galloway

      #10.2:His ability to cut the BS in the midst of Liberaland has them shaking in fear of his possible election.

      Keep dreaming! When you awake, we will still have Barack Hussein Obama as our President. Only he won't be the 44th President of the United States, he will be the 45th. Hello!

      • 12 votes
      #10.4 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 4:03 PM EST
      Patriot 8888

      If he's the 45th, we have a major problem.

      • 3 votes
      #10.5 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 4:09 PM EST
      blue wolf

      You're a Republican Patriot. You'll always have major problems.

      It's your core philosophy. Its all wrong.

      Nothing but major problems can possibly result from it.

      • 10 votes
      #10.6 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 4:38 PM EST
      Patriot 8888

      You're a Republican Patriot. You'll always have major problems.

      It's your core philosophy. Its all wrong.

      Nothing but major problems can possibly result from it.

      Can you actually type that with a straight face? I'm waiting for the punchline but I'm afraid it's BO.

      • 1 vote
      #10.7 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 4:58 PM EST
      blue wolf

      Profit over Planet:

      Can't work, never will, flawed at the core. Rejection of scientific fact: Can't work, never will, flawed at the core.

      • 10 votes
      #10.8 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:41 PM EST
      blue wolf

      Why don't you convince me: bring me a scientific paper that shows how fossil fuel burning actually benefits the environment.

      • 9 votes
      #10.9 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:45 PM EST
      blue wolf

      See thats the whole problem. Basically, as it stands right now, the GOP has embraced an agenda of pure lunacy and total BULLCRAP.

      • 12 votes
      #10.10 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:54 PM EST
      Reply
      Joe-1863628

      Is that all you got? I went to the list and Newt jumped up in my face an I knew it was BS!

      • 9 votes
      Reply#11 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:57 PM EST
      Spike Evans

      The only positive thing that I can say about the misleading propaganda in that list of absolute distortions is that it was written at a 6th grade level so that even the most moronic of Republicans might be able to memorize the talking points word for word at their next Tea Party baptism.

      • 16 votes
      Reply#12 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 4:03 PM EST
      Patriot 8888

      Absolute distortions? Listening to BO day in and day out will certainly fine tune one's ability to detect distortion.

      • 2 votes
      #12.1 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 4:12 PM EST
      Spike Evans

      Listening to BO day in and day out will certainly fine tune one's ability to detect distortion.

      Is that what you meant to say? While I don't really listen to Obama every day; I might catch whatever soundbite the media decides to play on the evening news; I do believe my ability to detect distortion reached its zenith under Bush Jr. It's the constant and continuous saturation of the right-wing nut jobs on the talk-radio stations that has me worried the most.

      • 10 votes
      #12.2 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 4:47 PM EST
      Reply
      chaos99972

      Sorry patriot, but no one going to buy this bull@!$%#.

      Fact is, every single one of these 10 reasons is either factually wrong, or mis-represented to the point of complete irrelevancy.

      You people simply do not have a prayer this November, not with the wasters, idiots, demogoges and utter nincompoops you are tryingt to tout as presidential candidates.

      The nation is growng again, our world is getting better, and all hard-working, decent, honest americans know what will happen to us if the likes of Santorum, Romney or Gingrich gain the Whitehouse. It isn't going to happen, and you should get used to the idea.

      • 16 votes
      Reply#13 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 4:19 PM EST
      Patriot 8888Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

      'k. Let's see your list of "factually-wrong" assertions.

      World is getting better? Hmmm, you must not have seen any news the past 2 months. Europe is on the verge of implosion, Israel and Iran are on the cusp of what could be WW III, and BO is sitting on the on the sidelines.

      Yup, the world is getting better.

      • 2 votes
      #13.1 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:03 PM EST
      blue wolf

      No Patriot, you're on the sidelines making baseless remarks about subjects you know nothing about.

      • 14 votes
      #13.2 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:43 PM EST
      Patriot 8888

      LOL. Baseless? hardly.

      • 1 vote
      #13.3 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:52 PM EST
      chaos99972

      Patriot...

      Here you go.

      1. 1. Mountain of debt

        To say that President Obama spends like a drunken sailor is an insult to drunken sailors. From the stimulus bill and auto bailouts to Cash for Clunkers and green jobs, President Obama’s spending reached epic proportions with annual trillion-dollar deficits. Any of the remaining Republican nominees would turn off the spigot of red ink.

      In point of fact, the deficit went from a SURPLUS of $380 Billion under Clinton to an $11 TRILLION debt under Bush. Almost ALL of Mr. Obama’s deficit spending has been forced upon him because the government must cover existing repayments on debts created by George Bush.

      2. ObamaCare demise

      As long as Obama remains President, the Patient Affordability and Protection Act (ObamaCare), has a chance of remaining the law of the land. Not so with a Republican in the Oval Office, as all the candidates would seek an end to the healthcare law. As long as Obama holds a veto pen, he can stymie conservative legislative efforts to reduce its scope.

      You actually have this one right.

      “Obamacare” has insured millions of people who did not previously have coverage. My own 22-year-old daughter is one of these people.

      In 2014, “obamacare” will outlaw private insurers from dropping people who get sick, and will not allow insurers to deny coverage for pre-existing conditions.

      Mandating health insurance has the effect of covering EVERY CITIZEN.

      Reason #1 why Mr. Obama will retain the Whitehouse.

      3. Capitalism reasserted

      Despite Gingrich’s assault on Bain Capital and Romney’s counterattack on Newt’s Fannie Mae contract, the Republican candidates are all, to varying degrees, free-market capitalists. Not so with the current White House occupant, who favors picking winners and losers out of “fairness” or “to help the environment.” So we sink billions into Solyndra and other bankrupt companies in the Utopian hope that creating green jobs will save the planet. As Chevy Volt sales indicate, consumer engineering is best to be left to the marketplace.

      Under Bush, a war was started in Iraq, for what we all now know were spurious and untrue reasons. Haliburton, the corporation once led by Dick Cheney, proceeded to make over $100 billion in sales, all of it taxpayer money.

      Solyndra was granted $535 million.

      Which is better, paying $100 billion for 4,500 american deaths, or $535 million on 4,000 jobs that didn’t happen?

      We all know which is better, don’t we.

      4. Energy myopia

      With his Keystone Pipeline XL ruling, Obama showed his true colors, choosing to placate the environmental lobby over jobs for American worker. His deep-water oil-drilling moratorium in the Gulf sent jobs to Brazil. Vast areas in Alaska and off the U.S. coasts remain off-limits for development. He even admitted his policies would dramatically increase electrical prices. Memo to President Obama: Spending billions to create green jobs doesn’t substitute for a serious energy policy.

      1. The Keystone pipeline ruling was a good one, preventing American homes and farms from being destroyed to facilitate a Canadian Corporation’s profits, and preventing serious environmental degradation of unique American ecosystems from taking place.
      2. The deep-water drilling moratorium was temporary. Oil companies are now back in the Gulf of Mexico, drilling deep.
      3. Electricity prices will rise regardless of government policy. This is a function of capitalism.
      4. Vast areas of unique ecosystems that deserve to be protected are protected.
      5. The federal Government announced today that an area the size of Delaware in the Gulf of Mexico, with a potential 175 million barrels of oil and 4.5 billion cubic feet of natural gas has been opened up for exploration and development.

      Sounds like a serious energy policy to me.

      5. Class warfare

      A Republican President would cease the insistent class-warfare attacks that Barack Obama wages. The President’s constant references to Warren Buffett’s secretary would end. We won’t hear his repetitive pledge to tax “millionaires and billionaires. ” We would no longer need to hear about evil banks, Wall Street traders, Big Oil and insensitive insurance companies.

      So-called “class warfare” attacks are in fact all promulgated from the republican and conservative side.

      When billionaires pay less tax than their employees, and are protected from paying more, that is class warfare.

      When republicans try to stop tax relief for 160 million americans, that’s class warfare.

      When the rich get richer at the expense of the rest of society, and are protected by political leaders, that is class warfare.

      When millions of Americans are made homeless by the banking and mortgage industries, and are protected by elected leaders, that is class warfare.

      Need I continue?

      6. Judicial nominations

      President Obama gave us Elena Kagan and Sonia Sotomayor—who for decades will be two reliable liberal votes on the Supreme Court—and he is slowly remaking the entire federal judiciary by advancing activists to the bench. President George W. Bush pushed some bad policies, but he did nominate Justices John Roberts and Samuel Alito—two solid conservatives. The next high court vacancy could be critical in tipping its ideological balance.

      And the “ideological balance” needs so desperately to be tipped, with conservative bought-and-paid-for justices calling corporations “people” with rights under the constitution previously enjoyed ONLY by actual citizens.

      7. Regulatory overkill

      This President is more than happy to see the Environmental Protection Agency enact global-warming regulations by fiat and EPA is now moving on getting the nation’s dust in order. The regulations governing ObamaCare are many times longer than the 2,000 pages of the bill itself. Any of the Republicans still in the running would lessen the regulatory burden on small businesses.

      No EPA rules regarding “dust” currently exist, have ever existed, and none are in the offing. This is another republican lie.

      The so-called “regulatory burden on small businesses” is in reality no more limiting than that under Bush. In fact, small businesses are hurting not because of increased regulation, but because greedy banks won’t extend or even offer lines of credit to existing and new small businesses, making it much harder for them to operate.

      8. Union coddling

      SEIU (Service Employee International Union) and other union leaders have an open door to the White House, as the mobilization of its thuggish army of workers is critical to Obama’s reelection. So we see the president pack the National Labor Relations Board with anti-business zealots who rule that Boeing can’t build a plant in non-union South Carolina. So much for that laser focus on jobs.

      That open-door policy is exactly why the autoworker unions accepted the worst financial setbacks in their history, and is why the auto industry has been saved, and is now profitable.

      Boeing opened its new $750 million plant in South Carolina in June of 2011.

      The NLRB dropped the union lawsuit in December of 2011, after the Washington state Boeing machinists union, who had brought the suit against the corporation, dropped their lawsuit.

      More republican lies. THE PLANT WAS BUILT, AND IS IN OPERATION.

      9. War on terror

      The Osama takedown notwithstanding, the President is not fully engaged in fighting the war on terror. He refuses to identify the enemy—radical Islamists—and has advanced their cause by turning against allies in Egypt and Libya. His failed Iranian policy has allowed a new power center of Western hate to flourish.

      More stupidity and downright lies. Mr. Obama has REPEATEDLY identified our enemy. Mr. Obama has ordered and endorsed the liquidation of more of these scum in his time in office than Bush did in his entire eight years.

      Egypt is STILL our ally, but because their rank-and-file citizenry rose up against a repressive dictator, they are going through chaos and violence. If anyone thinks the Egyptian Military is going to give up a billion dollars in yearly U.S. aide, they are complete idiots.

      Gaddafi was NEVER our ally. The new government IS OUR ALLY.

      Iran policy is working, as basic commodities become scare in that nation, and Iran has allowed nuclear investigators into their nuclear plants.

      Any OTHER STUPID statements to make, on this subject?

      10. Leadership deficit

      Obama often seems disinterested and aloof. He dithers when action is needed. The charismatic campaigner of hope and change has resorted to trotting out...

      This is so ridiculous that I hardly need refute it, but I will.

      Auto industry bailout: leadership.

      Banking Industry bailout: leadership.

      Identifying and exterminating our radical Islamic enemies: leadership.

      Preventing republicans from rescinding the payroll tax cut: leadership.

      Changing the new birth control regulations to protect the rights of churches and affiliated businesses: LEADERSHIP.

      Presiding over more job creation in three years than Bush created in EIGHT YEARS: LEADERSHIP.

      Getting re-elected in 2012…leadership not required: the republicans are doing a fine job of defeating themselves.

      Patriot, I advise professional help, for your rank hatred, before it makes you sick.

      • 3 votes
      #13.4 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 8:45 PM EST
      Patriot 8888

      Trust me. I won't be the one who is ill on election day.

      In point of fact, the deficit went from a SURPLUS of $380 Billion under Clinton to an $11 TRILLION debt under Bush. Almost ALL of Mr. Obama’s deficit spending has been forced upon him because the government must cover existing repayments on debts created by George Bush.

      My heart bleeds for BO. Point of fact: No one twisted BO's arm to increase the debt by another $5 trillion.

      All the whining in the world will not change the fact. And further fact confirms that BO is as clueless as he is incompetent. President Present has no other alternative but to blame others.

      “Obamacare” has insured millions of people who did not previously have coverage. My own 22-year-old daughter is one of these people.

      In 2014, “obamacare” will outlaw private insurers from dropping people who get sick, and will not allow insurers to deny coverage for pre-existing conditions.

      Mandating health insurance has the effect of covering EVERY CITIZEN.

      Reason #1 why Mr. Obama will retain the Whitehouse.

      Better brace yourself. The current polling still confirms that more than 90% of Americans still oppose the mandate. 60% of Americans still favor repeal.

      We do not need a 2200 page monstrosity and 1600 IRS agents to have the ability to maintain a child on the parents insurance up to age 26. No reason why we cannot also keep the no preexisting conditions. That would take about 5 pages.

      Under Bush, a war was started in Iraq, for what we all now know were spurious and untrue reasons.

      Who told you this? Liberal dogma? Stop parroting the Dem talking points.

      Everyone saw the evidence at the time and appeared to be unified in the approach. It's very easy to be a Monday morning quarterback.

      1. The Keystone pipeline ruling was a good one, preventing American homes and farms from being destroyed to facilitate a Canadian Corporation’s profits, and preventing serious environmental degradation of unique American ecosystems from taking place.
      2. The deep-water drilling moratorium was temporary. Oil companies are now back in the Gulf of Mexico, drilling deep.
      3. Electricity prices will rise regardless of government policy. This is a function of capitalism.
      4. Vast areas of unique ecosystems that deserve to be protected are protected.
      5. The federal Government announced today that an area the size of Delaware in the Gulf of Mexico, with a potential 175 million barrels of oil and 4.5 billion cubic feet of natural gas has been opened up for exploration and development.

      Sounds like a serious energy policy to me.

      pure unadulterated bunk regarding Keystone XL. This investigation has been going on since July 2008, when the initial proposal was submitted. Plain and simple - this is BO holding the US hostage to the environmentalists.

      As recently as August 2011, this project was a shoo-in for approval.

      September 1, 2011: Last week the US State Department reported in an environmental impact statement that there would be no significant impact on water and other natural resources along the proposed route of the Keystone XL Pipeline, which will carry crude oil from Canada’s Alberta oil sands to refineries on the Texas Gulf Coast.

      http://bizmology.hoovers.com/2011/09/01/is-the-keystone-xl-crude-oil-pipeline-a-done-deal/

      However, the article further goes on to state:

      Environmentalists and green energy advocates see the move as a step backward, increasing US dependency on one of the dirtiest kinds of fossil fuels rather than investing in the clean energy future (solar, wind, conservation) advocated by the Obama Administration’s US energy policy. In addition, some landowners and politicians in states that the pipeline will run through fear that a pipeline spill will contaminate local aquifers.

      This is merely a tempest in a teapot with BO playing with the livlihoods of Americans for political gain (or what he believes is political gain.

      As for drilling, much ado about nothing.

      So-called “class warfare” attacks are in fact all promulgated from the republican and conservative side.

      When billionaires pay less tax than their employees, and are protected from paying more, that is class warfare.

      When republicans try to stop tax relief for 160 million americans, that’s class warfare.

      When the rich get richer at the expense of the rest of society, and are protected by political leaders, that is class warfare.

      I don't even know where to begin.

      Stopping tax relief for 160 million people? This is the most pathetic drivel propagated by the Left.

      Perhaps you should consider moving to Venezuela or Cuba because that's the only equitable solution to resolve all of the evils that you appear to harbor against the US policy and legal structure.

      And the “ideological balance” needs so desperately to be tipped, with conservative bought-and-paid-for justices calling corporations “people” with rights under the constitution previously enjoyed ONLY by actual citizens.

      Unions have been doing it for years. No reason why everyone else can't.

      The rest is just Liberal spin.

      You need to prepare for a rude awakening in November.


      • 1 vote
      #13.5 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 3:47 AM EST
      chaos99972

      No, Patriot - LMAO..."patriot"... now THERE'S a false statement if ever I heard one - it's you and people like you that need to prepare for the fact that your party is pretty much over and done with come November, and it will need some serious restructuring, rethinking and retooling if it does not want to go the way of the Whig party.

      The supreme court ruling on Citizens United is a joke, a slap in the face of every freedom-loving american.

      The Pipeline ruling ensures that a corporation from Canada doesn't make a profit at our nation's expense.

      The payroll tax cut: republicans most definitely did try to rescind it...try reading the actual transcript from the public debate.

      Perhaps you should consider moving to Venezuela or Cuba because that's the only equitable solution to resolve all of the evils that you appear to harbor against the US policy and legal structure.

      Ah, yes, that time-honored conservative tactic of resorting to insults when the limits of debating skill have been reached. And your SO not good at it. No patriot, I really do think that you and people like you should leave our Great Nation. We don't need you here. The evils you claim I harbor against the government are in fact evils that exist in conservative republicanism...things like greed and bigotry, racism and intolerance.

      Under Bush, a war was started in Iraq, for what we all now know were spurious and untrue reasons.

      Who told you this? Liberal dogma? Stop parroting the Dem talking points.

      Mr. Bush started a war against Iraq. He and his administration claimed that this was neccessary because Iraq held weapons of mass destruction. Bush also claimed that there was a direct link between Sadam Hussein and Osama Bin Laden.

      These reasons were factually untrue, and Bush knew this. This is what decent, honest people call "lies". What part of these facts do you wish to try and refute?

      Oh, yeah, and next time, try responding to ALL of my points...if you dare.

      LMAO

      • 3 votes
      #13.6 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 3:30 PM EST
      Patriot 8888

      I think you are definitely in for a stunner in November.

      Gallup:

      Approval going down. Disapproval going up

      http://www.gallup.com/poll/113980/gallup-daily-obama-job-approval.aspx

      And BO's approval will be inversely proportional to the price of gas. And we all know where that is headed.

      And unemployment is up as of mid Feb. So much for things improving.....

      The U.S. unemployment rate, as measured by Gallup without seasonal adjustment, is 9.0% in mid-February, up from 8.6% for January. The mid-month reading normally reflects what the government reports and is up from 8.3% in mid-January.

      http://www.gallup.com/tag/Unemployment.aspx

      Better stock up on butter because BO will be toast in November.

      • 1 vote
      #13.7 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 3:51 PM EST
      Reply
      B.L. Frazer (NYC)

      typical wronged winged FOX News talking points. Move on, nothing to see here (as usual).

      • 13 votes
      Reply#14 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:47 PM EST
      Patriot 8888

      Thanks for that insightful commentary.

      • 1 vote
      #14.1 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:53 PM EST
      Reply
      babina

      Top Reasons to Re-Elect President Obama

      Under President Obama the the economy is improving (albeit slowly), the unemployment rate is dropping, we're paying the lowest taxes in 65 years, private sector jobs are consistently being added each month, he saved or created millions of jobs with the Recovery Act and the auto loan bailout, the stock market has doubled and is consistently up overall, regulations have been passed that will prevent another casino on Wall Street and economic meltdown, we're exiting wars we should have never engaged in, we're earning back the respect of the rest of the world, major landmark legislation has been passed that benefits millions of middle and working class Americans, e.g., LLFPRA, ARRA and the ACA, a draconian discriminatory policy, DADT, within our military was repealed, several top al-Qaeda leaders have been killed and or captured, Osama bin Laden was hunted down and killed, etc., etc., etc.

      All this and so much more in only 3 years despite being ham-stringed by a do nothing obstructionist republican congress who's only goal is to defeat him and see him fail no matter the cost to this nation along with the worst economic meltdown in 65 years and negative worldwide reputation due to conservative republican proven failed policies, deregulation and arrogance.

      Oh, and he is a class act.

      Reason Not to Vote for Any Republican

      Their extreme draconian middle and working class killing agenda, which is more extreme than the already proven failed policies they have been advocating and enacting for years.

      • 12 votes
      Reply#15 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:43 PM EST
      blue wolf

      I need nothing more than the knowledge that Republicans have consistently voted against the best interests of the very planet who's health determines the sustainability of ALL economy.

      Acting as if they somehow live outside of the Nature that gives them life, insulated and unaffected.

      Nope, no republican vote here.

      • 10 votes
      Reply#16 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:50 PM EST
      Mary-1324335

      From the article: "He dithers when action is needed."

      I see that the author of the article is dutifully using the approved vocabulary when discussing President Obama - dither.

      How many different Republicans used that word when talking about President Obama?

      • 4 votes
      Reply#17 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:25 PM EST
      Patriot 8888

      It's just such a perfect description. Why not?

        #17.1 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:29 PM EST
        Mary-1324335

        Well, we disagree about it being a perfect description. However, my point is that almost every right-winger uses that same word when discussing President Obama. Why? Cannot they think for themselves? Must they get their talking points from a pollster?

        • 5 votes
        #17.2 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 2:51 AM EST
        irene46

        @ patriot 8888 # 17.1...

        no pat 8888, a perfect description would be insightful and analytical decision making. maybe if the bush administration and congress (including dems) had done more "dithering" we would not have gone into iraq. so much for rushed decisions.

        • 4 votes
        #17.3 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 5:42 PM EST
        Reply
        AmericaRepublic

        #1....he spent all of our dang money...#2....he is still spending all our money..lol...I can't wait til we get America back...we may be too far gone...

        • 6 votes
        Reply#18 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:30 PM EST
        katt-529866

        If Bush had left him some money to work with like Bush was left to "F" up , and a economy that was on the right track and no fake war's on a credit card maybe he would not have had to spend my dang money on Bushes $#!+ , THE AMERICA YOU ARE DREAMING OF IS LONG GONE ! and inspite of all of your Republican's tactic's it will "NEVER EXIST AGAIN", you don't have enough "RACIST" to make it happen !!!!!

        • 7 votes
        #18.1 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 9:54 PM EST
        Patriot 8888

        While you are wistfully reminiscing about what could have been, and what Bush could have left, maybe you could also wish away a minor event that changed the entire course of the United States- 9/11. With that little nuisance out of the picture, we would be swimming in cash.

        • 3 votes
        #18.2 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:37 PM EST
        LanaD

        #18 accidentally voted up

        And it wasn't just 1 unjust war that caused this mess either.

        • 2 votes
        #18.3 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 11:49 PM EST
        katt-529866

        Why don't you wish it away since your Republican President let them slip into this country even after they were pre-warned and killed over "3000 AMERICAN'S " at one time, not even counting all killed in the war he started and never finished !

        • 3 votes
        #18.4 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 3:06 PM EST
        Patriot 8888

        Nothing like a little revisionist history for a Tuesday afternoon.

        • 3 votes
        #18.5 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 4:14 PM EST
        katt-529866

        Nothing like a little "facts" for a Tuesday afternoon , for without them history "will" repeat itself and for this country and the people in it , that would be a disaster !!!!!!

        • 2 votes
        #18.6 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 4:20 PM EST
        AmericaRepublic

        the back and forth rhetoric...in the end we are still in a mess currently...that's the present and reality..

        • 2 votes
        #18.7 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 9:21 PM EST
        katt-529866

        The reality is the Republican's "F " ed UP!

        • 2 votes
        #18.8 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:31 PM EST
        Patriot 8888

        And then the Dems made it worse.

        • 2 votes
        #18.9 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:38 PM EST
        katt-529866

        B.S. and

        P.S. I'm finish with this you will get no more rocks off on me !!!!!!

        • 3 votes
        #18.10 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:44 PM EST
        Patriot 8888

        Life after 1/20/13 might be somewhat difficult for you as the reality of a new President starts to set in.

        We now need someone else to clean up from the Dems mess.

        • 2 votes
        #18.11 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 1:49 PM EST
        AmericaRepublic

        indeed Patriot

        • 2 votes
        #18.12 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:26 PM EST
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        concerned67

        Patriot: He is one for you. The GOP is a stagnant, intellectually bankrupt, unimaginative party that has brought us to where we are today. They havn't changed since the Bush years. The GOP have no clue of what makes the economy tick or they would have come up with ways to help the economy and the middle class out. All they have done is talk about the gays, abortion, womens right, contraceptives and how people need to go to charities to have them pay for their medical bills. Privatize social security and medicare. McConnell said on Fox that his single most important goal is to make Obama a one term President and said it was true with all acitve Republicans. Nothing about jobs or the creation of jobs it is stop Obama. This was late in 2008. So we know why they haven't come up with anything to help the economy out. They are just mindless humans running around criticizing with no ideas of their own.

        • 7 votes
        Reply#19 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 11:28 PM EST
        LanaD

        I seriously don't even understand why you seed junk opinion pieces like this. Do you seriously think you're going to make someone who is on the fence or an Obama supporter go "wow this is so right!". If anything this kind of crazy talk will do the opposite. The person who wrote this wrote it for one demographic only: Those who didn't vote for Obama and wouldn't never vote for him anyway. Waste of time, ain't going to convince anyway not to vote for Obama.

        C'mon give me some REAL reasons not to vote for Obama. Until then... Obama 2012!!

        • 7 votes
        Reply#20 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 11:55 PM EST
        Patriot 8888

        C'mon give me some REAL reasons not to vote for Obama. Until then... Obama 2012!!

        Umm...mounting debt. That's not real? Have you looked at the country's balance sheet lately? Continued disregard for the nation's pocketbook.

        Maybe try onerous regulations?

        perhaps class warfare - pitting citizen against citizen. Never saw a President do that, did you?

        • 2 votes
        #20.1 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 12:31 AM EST
        Jonathan-1917156

        patriot,

        did you see the balance sheet for the last bush budget?

        • 5 votes
        #20.2 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 12:44 AM EST
        Patriot 8888

        Yes, but what was done about it the past 3 years? Mr. Bush has not been President since 1/20/09.

        But then again, that's the last time we actually saw a budget.

        • 1 vote
        #20.3 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 12:53 AM EST
        Jonathan-1917156

        Patriot,

        no, FY2010 had an official budget,

        and the deficit IS dropping, as the economy is slowly improving, but alas, the part that you seem to be missing right now is that it is congress that needs to pass a budget, not the president. So if congress can't produce a budget, exactly how is that Obama's fault?

        • 6 votes
        #20.4 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 1:04 AM EST
        Patriot 8888

        You are correct. BO cannot even garner the support of his own party to cobble together a budget.

        • 1 vote
        #20.5 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 1:09 AM EST
        Jonathan-1917156

        has nothing to do with the party, there is a SPLIT congress. which means that BOTH parties need to sign off.

        • 6 votes
        #20.6 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 1:38 AM EST
        Patriot 8888

        Very true. But the last budget that was actually voted on could not even get support from his own party.

        Pretty sad.

        • 1 vote
        #20.7 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 8:26 AM EST
        LanaD

        Umm...mounting debt. That's not real? Have you looked at the country's balance sheet lately?

        Yes and most of it is carry over spending from Bush. If Obama started with a blank slate and none of Bush's spending or policies to pay for then your argument would hold water.

        perhaps class warfare - pitting citizen against citizen. Never saw a President do that, did you?

        Oh asking the rich to go back to Clinton era rates and pay their fair share to help balance the budget is class warfare. I see, it's only class warfare when it's the middle class/poor vs rich, but when you turn the middle class vs middle class/working poor (union demonizing) or the middle class vs the working poor/poor (welfare queens, lazy unemployed) it's all fine and dandy. The Republicans are waging more class warfare than President Obama has ever come close to.

        But the last budget that was actually voted on could not even get support from his own party.

        I know, having members in your party with minds of their own who aren't mindless sheep to their leadership is a horrible thing to have.

        • 2 votes
        #20.8 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 9:40 AM EST
        Patriot 8888

        Sorry LanaD. That argument does not hold any water nor would it ever. Spin away but you will certainly get dizzy.

        Anyone in any job assumes the baggage from the predecessor - yes even the presidency. No one ever starts with a clean slate unless it is a brand new business.

        Anyone who thinks otherwise is just a whiner. A whiner better suited to a pre-school rather than a Presidency.

        Mindless sheep? That was the electorate in 2008. It seems you have forgotten that they have had an awakening in 2010.

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        #20.9 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:02 AM EST
        LanaD

        That argument does not hold any water nor would it ever. Spin away but you will certainly get dizzy.

        Backatcha Patriot ;)

        Anyone in any job assumes the baggage from the predecessor - yes even the presidency. No one ever starts with a clean slate unless it is a brand new business.

        Yep and not everyone gets handed a giant mess when they take over like Obama got handed. Got to take into account what the president is taking over. Bush for example inherited a booming economy and low deficit/debt from Clinton yet he still managed to f it up. Obama was handed a giant mess from Bush and he is cleaning it up. Took Bush 8 years to make the mess going to take close to that for Obama to fix it.

        Anyone who thinks otherwise is just a whiner.

        No someone who can face reality that there is a huge difference between taking over a good economy and lower debt than taking over a crap economy and out of control spending.

        Mindless sheep? That was the electorate in 2008.

        Your opinion completely. And I was speaking of congress members, not voters

        It seems you have forgotten that they have had an awakening in 2010.

        Your opinion again completely. Congresses approval rating has nothing but plummeted since those mindless sheep Republicans who walk lock step with their leadership were voted in an off year election. Don't look too close at the numbers from the two elections now...

        37% of 218,054,301 eligible voters turned out for 2010 US election day. Or 87,940,148. The overall ratio was 46 to 53 Dem to Reps or about 5million votes (1.6% of the entire US population, 2.3% of eligible voters.)

        2008: The final tally of total votes counted was 131.3 million. Expressed as a percentage of eligible voters, 131.2 million votes could reflect a turnout as high as 63.0% of eligible voters

        • 4 votes
        #20.10 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:13 AM EST
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        Charles McKenzie

        Top 10 reasons to vote against Obama...

        Obama won't let us peek into the bedrooms of gay couples for instances of sodomy

        Obama is cool and calm during a crisis, and we hate that from a leader

        Obama gave the order to take out Bin Laden and lost one helicopter, instead of thousands of soldiers

        Obama saved 1.4 million jobs by bailing out the auto industry, those people should be hooking and dumpster diving

        Obama's policies are helping this economy recover, we prefer to point and laugh

        Conservatives created NAFTA and the repeal of Glass-Stegal, look where that's gotten us

        Conservatives believe that all women who seek abortions should be forced to receive a vaginally inserted ultrasound, even if we have to hold her down and make her enjoy it

        Obama actually believes in talking to other world leaders like adults, instead of treating them like children

        Obama believes that all religions should be treated equally, we believe otherwise

        And the number one reason to vote against Obama....

        An Obama defeat means sugar honey iced tea for everyone!!!!!!

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        Reply#21 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 6:02 PM EST
        CreepingJesus

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        Reply#22 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 6:11 PM EST
        CreepingJesus

        Say republicans, conservatives and teabaggers?

        Tell as many lies and spread as much disinformation as you want.

        Won't matter.

        President Obama is going to be reelected anyway.

          Reply#23 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 6:22 PM EST
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