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In the president's press conference today, there were several things that stood out. Obama continued his compulsive need to blame others for his problems. He continued to make transparently untrue claims (such as implying that "every independent economist" agrees with his second stimulus package and insisting that the Solyndra decision was "made on the merits"). He continued to portray himself as a man of incomparable political virtues and his opponents as selfish, uncooperative partisans.
Obama's Empty Threats
Seeded on Fri Oct 7, 2011 11:58 AM EDT
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So are Obama hate threads.
What have the Republicans done to prove they are in it for more than just making him look bad? Fighting against the wealthy's 5% tax increase (who by the way wouldn't even realize it happened)? Well that just shows they are covering their "donors" asses and not their base's. Oh I forgot they wouldn't want to break their "pledge" to not raise taxes...unless of course it's the payroll tax cuts.
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#2 - Fri Oct 7, 2011 12:33 PM EDTObama "hate" thread?
Are you freakin' kidding?
I think that the truth hurts and the Lib Defense mechanism is clearly to deflect.
Thanks for so clearly illustrating my point.
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Lib defense...stolen from the Cons playbook.
Nice non-partisan article too. I don't know how I could question a story where the last line of the "article" equates Obama to a seven year old.
Seed a article not written by some ultra-conservative if you want people to listen.
BTW you didn't answer my question.
#3 - Fri Oct 7, 2011 1:12 PM EDTAs I said in my earlier post, the truth hurts.
I can certainly feel your pain to see all of the failed ideologies of the Left come crashing down, facing blanket repudiation by the populace.
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1.) Still didn't answer my question.
2.) Blanket repudiation from the right maybe but I don't see a whole bunch of people clamoring for the right's options.
3.) What failed ideologies? Equal rights for service memebers, affordable healthcare, spending money to stimulate the economy. The only things that have failed were policies watered down by cons.
JEFFINVA:
1.) Still didn't answer my question..
What question might that be JEFFINVA? Is it the one where you pretend that Republicans are purposely making Barry look bad? Trust me, he doesn't need their help. He's doing a fine job all by his lonesome.
Or, is it the one where you question the failed ideologies? One need look no further than the economic mess we are currently embroiled in. If you need examples of that, look at any newspaper.
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Ok. Let's do this in some kind of order. I like your idea, Jeff, of organizing everything by number.
1) You write:
Seed a article (sic) not written by some ultra-conservative if you want people to listen.
The point of the article is to show the extent of President Obama's inability to lead. It highlights the argument that Barack Obama is more dictatorial than presidential, and that he's more immature than constructive. I don't think any writer who you wouldn't consider "ultra-conservative" would dare make such an argument publicly. So we're kinda out of options there. But thanks anyway. I appreciate your disingenuous suggestion.
But in the end, I could be wrong. There may be plenty of liberal writers who have published articles saying the same thing. I'll look for them and get back to you.
#4 - Sat Oct 8, 2011 12:00 AM EDT2) You're right about Pat not answering your question. The seed was a good contribution, but so far his comments haven't added much value to the conversation.
On the other hand, maybe Patriot merely doesn't follow your question. That would make sense considering the way you completely changed the subject. The article isn't about Republicans, or even the Democrat side of Congress. It's about our President.
Still, you ask a good question. What have the Republicans done to advance the interests of the Nation? If that were the topic, I'd do some research to answer that. If they haven't done much, then they have my blame, same as President Obama.
3) Let's keep going:
Blanket repudiation from the right maybe but I don't see a whole bunch of people clamoring for the right's options.
It's called the Tea Party.
From gallup.com:
Tea Party supporters skew right politically; but demographically, they are generally representative of the public at large. That's the finding of a USA Today/Gallup poll conducted March 26-28, 2010, in which 28% of U.S. adults call themselves supporters of the Tea Party movement.
(http://www.gallup.com/poll/127181/tea-partiers-fairly-mainstream-demographics.aspx)
According to last year's census, there are 234 million adults in this country.
(http://www.census.gov/prod/cen2010/briefs/c2010br-03.pdf)
28% is 65 and a half million people. Did you just question whether a group that is generally representative of the public at large can be considered a populace? What of your assertion to see "a whole bunch of people clamoring for the right's options"? Is 65 million not "a whole bunch" to you?
(And it would be great if you avoided the words "repudiate", "vapid", and "vitriol". They've become cliché, Pat.)
4) Moving on to the kicker:
What failed ideologies?
There are many, but we can go with your examples. I'll give you "rights for gay members of the services." I respect the President for getting that done. But, affordable healthcare? Point me to that, please. My premium just went up, so you'd be helping out if you told me where to find it. Spending money to stimulate the economy? Well, President Obama didn't fail at the first part. He definitely spent money. But, oh, damn. It's that second part that fizzled, isn't it?
The only things that have failed were policies watered down by cons.
We can stick with your examples, since they were such good ones. Please name the parts of Obamacare that were watered down by Conservatives. If you can't, please name the parts of the stimulus that were watered down by Conservatives.
I don't think you can name any from either example. But for a second, let's assume you can. Are you telling me that you'd like a governemental system that let's a president, or one party, which represents only about 35% of the country (http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/mood_of_america/partisan_trends), should be able to pass and enforce any legislation they want, without any dispute or accountability?
Please, Jeff, just go to bed. Alternatively, you can answer my questions.
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that lets a president
should be able topass and enforce
Pardon my typos.
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