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Our Petulant Child President

Seeded on Thu Jul 14, 2011 2:21 AM EDT
Read ArticleArticle Source: Redstate
politics, barack-obama, economy, republican, democrat, debt, deficit, debt-ceiling, eric-cantor
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US President Barack Obama stormed out of tense debt-limit talks Wednesday with his top Republican foes after declaring he was ready to stake his reelection on the outcome, a Republican aide said.

After Republican House Majority Leader Eric Cantor proposed to raise the US debt ceiling in more than one catch-all vote, Obama got “heated” and insisted on one comprehensive deal, said the aide, who requested anonymity.

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Patriot 8888

This isn’t a surprise to anyone who has been playing attention to our child president over the past three years. The Obama administration has been a veritable Mecca for narcissism and incompetence from the time Obama took the oath of office.

Now, for the first time since taking office, Obama is forced to make a decision that entailed personal risk. It isn’t a pretty sight.

  • 8 votes
#1 - Thu Jul 14, 2011 2:22 AM EDT
Rich-365548

Not too surprising that the petulant children in the GOP once again want to put off making the hard decisions until the next election is over.

  • 20 votes
#1.1 - Thu Jul 14, 2011 2:53 AM EDT
Ben-478550

Um...

Birth certificate?

Kowtowing to GOP on health care?

Stimulus?

This president has been scrutinized and picked over more than most ever will be. I'm not an Obama apologist by any stretch, but your position is childish and ignores the glut of negativity he's had to shoulder since coming into office.

Anyway, Patriot, during the reign of Tsar W, criticizing the president in any way would have seen you rounded up and sent to Guantanamo. Just considering that Obama clearly has a sense of humor and a sense of fair negotiation means he's light years better than W in that regard.

  • 21 votes
#1.2 - Thu Jul 14, 2011 2:55 AM EDT
MDC-441879

Obama said he would not be “afraid to veto” a short-term approach or “defend it to the American people” and warned that a US debt default would amount to “a tax increase on every American,” said the aide.

Obama said “I have reached the point where I say enough,” and added “I’ve reached my limit. This may bring my presidency down, but I will not yield on this,” according to the aide.

Sounds like somebody has got the balls to say no to the teapublicans and not as the article states. Wow, try to twist the truth much?

  • 24 votes
#1.3 - Thu Jul 14, 2011 2:56 AM EDT
Yosho

Lemme see if I got this right...

The Republicans say the goal is to bring down the debt and propose $2 trillion in cuts, but nothing involving any tax increase ( including acting on letting the Bush-era cuts expire as they were designed to do ) would be accepted.

The White House upped the ante and offered $4 trillion in debt reduction, with even more cuts than the Republican proposal, but with some tax increases that account for less than 20% of the package, but the Republicans refused it.

Republican House Majority Leader Eric Cantor proposed to raise the US debt ceiling in more than one catch-all vote

Given recent antics by the Republican party at the state and federal level, this sounds like a setup for a bait-and-switch, splitting the package up unto several items to vote on, promising to vote for later Dem tax proposals after the Repubs get their cuts and planning the whole time to "change their mind" and protect the corporate sponsors by refusing to meet their part of the deal once their goals are achieved.

They call this distrust based on recent history "petulance"?

I call it getting the saying about "Fool me once" right ( unlike his predecessor ) and acting accordingly with those who've earned whatever distrust is shown them.

  • 19 votes
#1.4 - Thu Jul 14, 2011 3:18 AM EDT
commoner2011

What you have written is absolute hogwash. Even the greedy friends of the Republicans i.e. corporate America, is freaking out--for one thing, if Moody lowers our rating, there will be real economic problems. The Republican's are ONLY trying to save their party, not America. Dumb, dumb, dumb.

  • 10 votes
#1.5 - Thu Jul 14, 2011 3:39 AM EDT
Chirmly

The president declared that the goal was a non-interim bill, a final and full proposal.

When the GOP tried to pass off the "interim solution" instead, they were roundly rebuffed, right?

  • 4 votes
#1.6 - Thu Jul 14, 2011 3:40 AM EDT
Yosho

The Republican's are ONLY trying to save their party, not America.

Exactly. You call it dumb, but they think they're being clever. They figure if things go to hell because of their refusal to compromise, they'll not only get votes from those who support such "cut off your nose despite your face" zealotry, but they can also count on a large number of voters forgetting Obama's attempts to reach a compromise and buy their claim that it's all the White House's fault.

If Obama pulls the other option, trying to exploit some ambiguity in the Constitution that may allow for the President to act on the idea that "this country pays its bills", to get around the vote, they get to bitch about him exceeding his authority, again leaving out their contribution to the developments leading to such an action, in 2012.

The effects on the Republicans' corporate sponsors will only add to those supporters' motivation to contribute to the 2012 campaigns, never mind that if they'd reined in their pets' anti-corporate-tax zealotry the impact on their bottom line could very well have been less than the effect of a default on the economy.

Then, of course, there's the possibility that they'll back down at the last minute and grumble their way to a compromise and avoid the default. In that case, they'll still be able to put the Weeper of the House in front of the cameras to mourn for the future generations that will have to pay off the added debt ( again, forgetting to mention their own party's contribution to said debt ) to try and get more votes against a president they'll claim had no concern for the country.

The way they see it, they can't lose regardless of how it goes. And since they themselves have said that ousting Obama in 2012 is their priority, I'd say it's safe to assume they'll have no concern about any possible catastrophic effects on the rest of us ( except how some might buy their BS ).

  • 5 votes
#1.7 - Thu Jul 14, 2011 4:06 AM EDT
Reliant

Boehner and McConnell are pissing their pants fore fear of not being able to get a deal through and that the GOP will be blamed for economy crashing and Cantor is being called to heal by the Wall Streeters holding his leash. They realize that they have painted themselves into a corner.

The President can surley veto a short term Debt Increase, the Debt Limit hase been raised in just a couple of hours in the past at the last minute. It only takes a very few words in the bill to say what the new limit is.

  • 9 votes
#1.8 - Thu Jul 14, 2011 4:27 AM EDT
Darryl Blackshear

Every parent sometimes gets mad when their children miss behaves. The republicans have stomped their feet and stormed off quite a few times in this deal! I could easily see someone loosing patience with them....

  • 5 votes
#1.9 - Thu Jul 14, 2011 7:53 AM EDT
bdjwill

Darryl Blackshear

I could easily see someone loosing patience with them....

The American public has lost their patience with them. The recalls and special elections have shown that.

  • 3 votes
#1.10 - Thu Jul 14, 2011 2:00 PM EDT
The Moonbat Detective

The recalls and special elections have shown that.

No. The only thing that these recalls show is that LIEberals get pissy when the lose elections fair and square and instead of waiting until the next election they cowardly attempt to usurp fair and free elections because that is how the cowardly left behave.

  • 2 votes
#1.11 - Thu Jul 14, 2011 2:55 PM EDT
bdjwill

No. The only thing that these recalls show is that LIEberals get pissy when the lose elections fair and square and instead of waiting until the next election they cowardly attempt to usurp fair and free elections because that is how the cowardly left behave.

And the RethugliCONS try and rewrite and stifle the voters than can go out and vote democrat. Or have you forgotten about the Al Franken election? It took the idiot Republican HOW long to concede the election?

The Repugs are even more pissy about losing an election. They can try all they want but the American people are fed up with the Republican's bullcrap.

  • 5 votes
#1.12 - Thu Jul 14, 2011 3:18 PM EDT
The Moonbat Detective

They can try all they want but the American people are fed up with the Republican's bullcrap.

Nope. What Americans are sick and tired of are LIEberal's incompetence at getting them jobs and improving the economy. You can blame Bush or the color of the sky, but when it comes time in November 2012 to vote and Americans still don't have jobs and the economy still sucks then LIEberals are going to get a good repeat of 2010, working its way from the WH and then throughout congress. The cancer that is LIEberalism will be eradicated if unemployment gets worse or stays the same.

  • 1 vote
#1.13 - Thu Jul 14, 2011 3:34 PM EDT
bdjwill

What Americans are sick and tired of are LIEberal's incompetence at getting them jobs and improving the economy.

And where's the jobs that the RepubliCONs ran on in the 2010 election? There's not been one good piece of legislation to come from their camp yet. It went from "Jobs, jobs, jobs" to "Mine, mine, mine".

  • 5 votes
#1.14 - Thu Jul 14, 2011 3:37 PM EDT
joe420er

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the time, time, time , yes its prime, prime, prime
i'm takin ova tracks 'cause its mine, mine, mine
*&^%$!

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I STAY FRESH, FRESH, FRESH, FR, FR, FR, FRESH

the cons' theme song!!! holla!!!!

    #1.15 - Thu Jul 14, 2011 10:44 PM EDT
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    MartinEZ

    There's something about being slightly off kilter and having too wave "patriotism" in everyone's face that I will never quite make a connection too. With that sad...

    This isn’t a surprise to anyone who has been playing attention to our child president over the past three years.

    Playing attention? Our child President? Is this drivel coming from Limbaugh's adolescent grand children?

    • 12 votes
    Reply#2 - Thu Jul 14, 2011 2:50 AM EDT
    RT-36

    Thanks for the laugh, Patriot.

    And good luck trying to make Obama a '1-Term President'.(since that's all you guys over there on the right care about...) Idiocy like this is why the Teapublicans/GnOp lose legitimacy everyday.

    • 17 votes
    Reply#3 - Thu Jul 14, 2011 2:55 AM EDT
    EJ Rotert

    Quite the assessment, coming from a redneck -- uh, I mean `red state' -- website.

    • 13 votes
    Reply#4 - Thu Jul 14, 2011 2:59 AM EDT
    EJ Rotert

    `Now, for the first time since taking office, Obama is forced to make a decision that entailed personal risk. It isn’t a pretty sight.'

    Yes, the Afghanistan raid entailed no personal risk. The stimulus spending approval entailed no personal risk. The Libyan bombing entailed no personal risk. Please, pay attention Patriot. And if that's above your pay grade, then just go back to sleep.

    • 11 votes
    Reply#5 - Thu Jul 14, 2011 3:09 AM EDT
    Michael in S J

    I think Obama gets to call the shots when it is his meeting at his house.

    I am guessing redstate showed the same indignation when Can'tor walked out last giving the ball to Boehner.

    Oh, they didn't, hmmmm!

    • 10 votes
    Reply#6 - Thu Jul 14, 2011 3:17 AM EDT
    The Moonbat Detective

    I think Obama gets to call the shots when it is his meeting at his house.

    He is the King? He owns D.C.? Really? His house? I thought it was our house. Hate to break it to ya but Oblunder works for you and me.

    • 4 votes
    #6.1 - Thu Jul 14, 2011 7:04 AM EDT
    Michael in S J

    No he is not the king. It is his house, even if only as a tenant, as long as he is our president.

    Yes, Obama does work for both of us. You should spend more of your time learning how to spell O-B-A-M-A than trying to be cute on this forum, because it isn't working for you.

    • 6 votes
    #6.2 - Thu Jul 14, 2011 7:36 AM EDT
    The Moonbat Detective

    You should spend more of your time learning how to spell O-B-A-M-A than trying to be cute on this forum, because it isn't working for you.

    I beg to differ.

    • 1 vote
    #6.3 - Thu Jul 14, 2011 1:28 PM EDT
    Michael in S J

    How about a vote:

    Is Moonbat Detective too cute, or not?

    • 1 vote
    #6.4 - Thu Jul 14, 2011 4:08 PM EDT
    The Moonbat Detective

    Is Moonbat Detective too cute, or not?

    I vote cute.

      #6.5 - Fri Jul 15, 2011 6:20 PM EDT
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      bdjwill

      This article makes me laugh. It's so flimsy & based on such skewed & biased viewpoints.

      You can continue to try and make Obama a "one-term" president and live in your twisted little world, the rest of us will continue to live to oust the idiocy that is the current Teapublican Party

      • 16 votes
      Reply#7 - Thu Jul 14, 2011 3:18 AM EDT
      RT-36

      How's that for 'Shock and Awe? LMAO!!!!!!!!!!

      This was goood.

      • 1 vote
      Reply#8 - Thu Jul 14, 2011 3:26 AM EDT
      steven-791492

      fox.... talking point recap for the day.... thanks for the laugh.

      • 8 votes
      Reply#9 - Thu Jul 14, 2011 3:30 AM EDT
      fitzsc

      Lets See The Teapublicans can get in front of the camera and say Whatever Obama Say we just say No so we can make him fail ... Then The Teapublicans get all bent out of shape because he says no to not kicking the can down the road and dealing with the budget now, as the Teapublicans wanted. Of -Course from the article it appears they were after a catch-all bill, another bag of tax cuts for the wealthy ?? The Teapublicans will carry the load if no deal is struck. The teapublicans have failed in their effort to have the budget deficit and no deal on Obama, The American Voter is watching. I think Obama is the only grownup in the room.

      • 12 votes
      Reply#10 - Thu Jul 14, 2011 3:53 AM EDT
      Happily BLUE in Ohio

      Oh, that headline just cries to heaven for clarification! Let me see if I can make sense of this seed:

      On May 24, 2011, Eric Cantor and John Kyl walk out of debt ceiling talks.

      Then rethuglicons demand that President Obama come to the table, which he does (because working with the VP just isn't enough, is it???). Not only that, Obama puts everything on the table to create $4 trillion in debt reduction.

      Of course this is more than the rethuglicons ever asked for, and debt reduction is exactly what they've been griping about since Obama took office, but they reject the president's proposal, and counter with a suggestion for $2 trillion dollar cut. (Because the president offered to meet and beat them at their own demand???)

      And now, because Obama won't do exactly what the rethuglicons want him to do, which is act like he's a part of the jackwad G-NO-P, the President is petulant????? Puhleeeease! That is the most outrageous statement anyone could make in light of the actions of the G-NO-P.

      There are a lot of petulant idiots in WDC, but right now they are all part of the Reich Wing as teabagging rethuglicons.

      • 12 votes
      Reply#11 - Thu Jul 14, 2011 5:54 AM EDT
      Tom-VermillionOhio

      Happily, you make me proud to be a fellow Ohioan. Since we're practically neighbors, we've got to get together sometime. I think I'll find a way to compliment your comment.

      • 7 votes
      #11.1 - Thu Jul 14, 2011 6:40 AM EDT
      Happily BLUE in Ohio

      LOL, Tom.

      This seed was so over the top in fingerpointing that it was absolute lunacy!!!

      It's hard to believe that any outlet (even Redstate or "American Stinker") could release something sooooo stupid!

      • 8 votes
      #11.2 - Thu Jul 14, 2011 6:45 AM EDT
      Tom-VermillionOhio

      Yes it is. (over the top) The President, recommended, a couple of days ago that certain folks 'eat their peas'. Yesterday, he sent them to bed without their supper because they haven't learned their lesson. President Obama is reading the GOP-Tea Party like a book. And that's a good thing. AND this is starting to get real fun and interesting.

      • 4 votes
      #11.3 - Thu Jul 14, 2011 7:11 AM EDT
      steven-791492

      Happily BLUE in Ohio, I too thank you for the edit. We need to get with Tom-VermillionOhio and take over the Ohio state government.

      A bright spot here is the extra million signatures turned in to put SR5 on the ballot.

      Have seen Crossroads is already running attack at against Senator S. Brown?

      • 4 votes
      #11.4 - Thu Jul 14, 2011 9:41 AM EDT
      Happily BLUE in Ohio

      Geez, Steven, Sherrod Brown is one of my favorite politicians and has been for about 30 years!

      That takes some doing to attack Brown, considering that the right is offering Josh Mandel, that sleazy worm who lied throughout this campaign and got still elected and he continues to be duplicitous. Ugh! Makes my blood boil!

      • 5 votes
      #11.5 - Thu Jul 14, 2011 10:33 AM EDT
      Tom-VermillionOhio

      Well then, that sounds like a good deal. I shall be contacting both of you in the very near future!

      Regarding Xroads vs Brown. Yes, I did see that. Thanx for the reminder, need to get in touch with Sherrod's office and see how they wish us to counter that, if they want us to. Need to look up that add clip. I don't want to inadvertantly counter there efforts. Should get in touch with Marci Kaptor also.

      • 2 votes
      #11.6 - Thu Jul 14, 2011 12:36 PM EDT
      Happily BLUE in Ohio

      Marcy's my MoC! And a responsive legislator, too!

      • 5 votes
      #11.7 - Thu Jul 14, 2011 1:08 PM EDT
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      jwc2blue

      Poor, poor Patriot.

      Your boys are imploding.

      The meeting was OVER. Even Faux News said so.

      What is it with Teathuglicans?

      They leave meetings before they end or they don't leave when they're over.

      Thank God there's an adult in the White House to tell them what's going on.

      • 8 votes
      Reply#12 - Thu Jul 14, 2011 8:16 AM EDT
      Rich-2229277

      Damn Patriot,

      They are just watching you to post something. I enjoy the ramblings from the left side Army of Darkness and that is true morning entertainment.

      What are they so afraid of?

      Patriot my friend you are not alone and President Obama has these true friends so he definitely can not afford or need new enemies.

      • 3 votes
      Reply#13 - Thu Jul 14, 2011 9:32 AM EDT
      Tom-VermillionOhio

      Yes, you are correct. And there are others too. President Obama has earned my friendship and my support and endorsement WHEREAS those who have opposed him have not.

      • 5 votes
      #13.1 - Thu Jul 14, 2011 1:01 PM EDT
      Rich-2229277

      Well, there it is then!

        #13.2 - Thu Jul 14, 2011 1:38 PM EDT
        Patriot 8888

        Obama is a sorry excuse for a leader. He is imploding under the responsibility. It's going to be an interesting ride watching him self-destruct!

        Just love reading the Libby delusions on the Vine. It's some of the best fiction I have read!!

        • 1 vote
        #13.3 - Thu Jul 14, 2011 4:24 PM EDT
        YELLOW DOG D.

        feel the same about you,pat

        • 2 votes
        #13.4 - Thu Jul 14, 2011 4:32 PM EDT
        Patriot 8888

        You have me confused with someone pretending to be a leader. It's the empty suit currently occupying the White House. No wonder we are on the verge of becoming a banana republic.

          #13.5 - Thu Jul 14, 2011 4:35 PM EDT
          YELLOW DOG D.

          IYO.

          • 1 vote
          #13.6 - Thu Jul 14, 2011 4:44 PM EDT
          bdjwill

          No wonder we are on the verge of becoming a banana republic.

          No thanks in part to the G-NO-P

          • 3 votes
          #13.7 - Thu Jul 14, 2011 4:57 PM EDT
          Patriot 8888

          Classic

            #13.8 - Thu Jul 14, 2011 4:57 PM EDT
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            SuperSaiyan

            I find it ironic that this is coming from someone(Cantor) who not only previously left debt talks, but had long planned on doing it...

            http://thehill.com/homenews/house/168287-republicans-biden-group-walkout-was-long-planned

            The far right should look in the mirror when they accuse someone of being petulant...

            • 3 votes
            Reply#14 - Thu Jul 14, 2011 8:54 PM EDT
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